tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post7536878221032062558..comments2024-03-27T12:58:00.592-07:00Comments on Snowbrush: Wanted: Committed Christians to pray for stupid lowdown atheist bastardSnowbrushhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00436087215476479042noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-75236783190861700292010-08-16T06:39:24.249-07:002010-08-16T06:39:24.249-07:00I always enjoy your posts on religion, but this on...I always enjoy your posts on religion, but this one was over the top. I wish I could express my thoughts as well a you do. When the Religious Right takes over, we just might end up being cellmates. I'm sure if I lived in a Muslim country, I would have been stoned long ago.<br /><br />I would request only a few things of religious people ---one of them is to NEVER tell me they will pray for me. Next, I would just like them to admit that they are not in possession of the whole truth about anything. No one is or ever will be. And my last would be that they wouldn't have that knee-jerk reaction when they find out I am a non-believer ---implying I am hopeless, evil, or deserving of their pity ---or worse, their hate.C Woodshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13053858627632648020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-35073318391972623842010-08-15T19:26:36.446-07:002010-08-15T19:26:36.446-07:00We may find out what the "deal" is when ...We may find out what the "deal" is when we die or then again we may not.. Keep on writing SnowJoe Toddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07960458164425338569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-91951044492069935052010-08-07T23:59:50.649-07:002010-08-07T23:59:50.649-07:00Hello to my favorite Snowbrush.
I promise never ...Hello to my favorite Snowbrush. <br /><br />I promise never to pray for you if you promise not to call me ignorant. I'm very well versed in scripture, christian, mormom,catholacism, JW, Islam and science. I've made a decision based on my searching, my learning, and you've made yours. You know that I have absolutely no disrespect for you, actually I'm rather fond of you and if I'm ever down that way, I would consider it an honor to meet you and your beautiful wife Peggy. <br /><br />I detest Christians that are all holier than thou and pushing their "religion" (which I view differently than faith) down the throats of people. It's wrong and it's spoken against in the bible. Jesus told the disciples that if people don't want to hear you don't stand and debate and argue, you leave. <br />I think so many 'christians" (Pharisees in my mind) think they have some quota to fill. I am a believer as you know, but if one more person asks me why I no longer attend church I may just go a "Jesus in the Temple" on them. <br /><br />I haven't gone for years and I doubt I'll be back anytime soon. My husband goes and takes the kids. He's never said a word to me about it. He respects my opinion and won't push me. <br /><br />I like you for WHO you are, not WHAT you are. <br /><br />Once again I promise never to pray for you, and If I do, I'll never tell you about it. That's just disrespectful. <br /><br />If you ever want to email me, my address in on my profile page.<br /><br />I hope you're feeling at least a wee bit better physically.The Bipolar Divahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05449793830455116918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-74351153010187284432010-08-06T08:40:12.967-07:002010-08-06T08:40:12.967-07:00Crumbs Snowbrush, what a conversation to have with...Crumbs Snowbrush, what a conversation to have with yourself! Might be a good idea to get a dummy and try a bit of ventroloquism. Would be a hoot!<br /><br /><br />It's much easier to be an atheist, Muslim, Jew, Sikh etc. Much harder to be a Christian. It's not politically correct apparently. <br /><br />I don't much care what people believe, it's a free country so they say, but I find it hard to accept that you can wear a full burqa yet you can't wear a cross if you work for some companies like British Airways. Daft or what?Winifredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12415302188575538163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-8184341540752814062010-08-05T18:11:20.690-07:002010-08-05T18:11:20.690-07:00I've been enjoying your blog, Snow. :-) It'...I've been enjoying your blog, Snow. :-) It's so refreshing to see that there exist atheist Americans. <br /><br />Anyway, I am not so militant as to want to actively deny others' right to believe in the Supernatural IN PRIVATE. However, I am tired of theists encroaching on MY rights - politicians (!!) and lobby groups, for examples.<br /><br />Australians used to be lax about such things but ever since GWB's reign, his pal John Howard was voted in repeatedly and suffice it to say, Howard's pretty much paved the way to this country's ruin - in every way imaginable.<br /><br />Depressing stuff...<br /><br />There are very wise religious people though. Like Dr. Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury. Naturally, his understanding/meditation of/on spirituality is not for the brain dead. :-)<br /><br />Hey, keep up the good work!Islahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02575099138923111167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-28201872395751671272010-08-04T17:00:40.837-07:002010-08-04T17:00:40.837-07:00Very well-written. I enjoyed it very much.
Fun...Very well-written. I enjoyed it very much. <br /><br />Funny, it reminded me of when I was a child, and my mom would always mail Christmas and Birthday cards (and always of a religious bent--we were Catholic). Well, one of my uncles, who was a bit of a "free-thinker" finally had enough of them, and told her he was tired of getting cards saying that she was praying for him, or that Jesus loves him, etc... Of course, my mom couldn't understand why he, who had been raised a Catholic, and should know better, would feel that way; it just wouldn't compute. And of course, she would never be able to understand it, because her brain was hard-wired a different way. <br /><br />And that's what it really boils down to. Those who are religious will never be convinced to believe ("un-believe?") otherwise; no matter how much you point out the flaws in their belief system. Easier to fit a camel through the eye of a needle.<br />;)Bubbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12358445946484413443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-87179061101434076032010-08-04T11:31:43.626-07:002010-08-04T11:31:43.626-07:00Katherine said: "PS. have you heard of Prof. ...Katherine said: "PS. have you heard of Prof. Lloyd Geering?"<br /><br />No, but I enjoyed the video and will see if the local library has any of his books. Like America's Episcopal bishop John Shelby Spong, he extols the merits of a Christianity without god. What I don't understand about their view is why they think so highly of Jesus when no one knows for sure if he really lived or, if he did live, what he actually said. Even so, I respect their intellectual courage.<br /><br />Blog Fodder said: "http://www.atheistcartoons.com<br />Expect you already have seen this."<br /><br />Yes, I have. I used one of his cartoons a couple of months ago. It was the one in which a pretty woman was offering free hugs--except to atheists. I'm glad you enjoy him too.<br /><br />Mim said: "I think you're worrying about this crap WAY too much..."<br /><br />I don't lie awake nights, Mim. Or at least I don't lie awake nights worrying about a religious takeover. Who knows why people are interested in one thing and not another? I just know that religion has loomed large in my mind for my whole life. My latest interest is Hitler. I've watched many documentaries about him and read at least part of many books, so maybe he will be the subject of my next post.<br /><br />Gaston Studio said: "I really don't want to "discuss" religion as it's very private..."<br /><br />I wish it were that way with everyone. Jane, I was aware that you were posting again, and I have visited you once. Now, I'm way behind on other people's blogs. I don't know that I will ever take a complete hiatus like you did, but my intensity waxes and wanes.Snowbrushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00436087215476479042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-84028484320466456802010-08-04T08:26:09.958-07:002010-08-04T08:26:09.958-07:00Wow Snow, I just came by to say hi and let you kno...Wow Snow, I just came by to say hi and let you know I'm sort of back to blogging... and then, I read your post. I really don't want to "discuss" religion as it's very private with me but I will say that I do fear the usurge of fundamentalist religion, no matter the source.<br /><br />Hope you're doing well!<br />JaneAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16813508472498593787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-61668789742333869772010-08-04T08:25:51.784-07:002010-08-04T08:25:51.784-07:00I think you're worrying about this crap WAY to...I think you're worrying about this crap WAY too much. just sayin'....Mimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12409455543895086283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-3647119020903865962010-08-04T04:58:12.669-07:002010-08-04T04:58:12.669-07:00http://www.atheistcartoons.com
Expect you already...http://www.atheistcartoons.com<br /><br />Expect you already have seen this. Just found it today. Hilarious.The Blog Fodderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11441978691701289074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-53692295868645073502010-08-01T15:27:59.142-07:002010-08-01T15:27:59.142-07:00The wave of fundamentalist religiosity that you en...The wave of fundamentalist religiosity that you encounter and battle is not unique to the USA, but, I think, more prevalent. Here in New Zealand it is easier to be an atheist. <br /><br />Funny how belief (in religious terms) is often equated with passing over responsibility to someone/thing else. (Which ties in well with an over-benevolent welfare system, ironically). <br />Whereas life should be about taking responsibility. Maturity. Reason. Thinking for oneself. <br /><br />I hope no one starts praying for ME now!<br /><br />PS. have you heard of Prof. Lloyd Geering? He's one of my heroes in the belief department. <br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfFb216HiX0Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12453125929159161583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-38552082360859311522010-07-31T15:30:49.641-07:002010-07-31T15:30:49.641-07:00Kylie said: "it just seems to me that both of...Kylie said: "it just seems to me that both of you are getting hurt in a fruitless discussion where neither can see the other's point of view."<br /><br />Yes, I think it is fruitless. Nollyposh is going to be unhappy if she isn't free to tell me she's praying for me on my own blog. Doing it on her blog isn't enough. Telling me once, and then letting it go isn't enough. Yet, I have observed that she has rarely told me in the past that she was praying for me, and that she doesn't have a habit of telling other people that she is praying for them. It is only now that I have made this request that the issue has become important. You are right. I don't understand this, and I probably never will. <br /><br />Kay said: "I think I understand what you're saying but even trying to shut the diehard religious up is like talking to the wall"<br /><br />I find it very disheartening that people who I consider to be my friends think I'm insensitive for asking that they not pray for me on my own blog. Given this, I can well understand why they feel justified in forcing their religion upon people in the public arena by way of prayers at graduations, jury trials, football games, city council meetings, political inaugurations, public banquets, ground-breaking ceremonies, holiday observances, etc.<br /><br />Dana said: "Fast forward to 2010 and our answers contain no more thought or insight than those at the time of the writings."<br /><br />Right. Every field of knowledge advances except for religion. When you look at Christian groups that attempt to advance religious thought, they invariably move further and further from even being religious. I think there's a lesson in this.<br /><br />Bernie said: "I was concerned for your friend as I felt she cared very much about you."<br /><br />I realize this, Bernie. You saw her--and others--as putting a lot of love and time into attempting to communicate with me, and me as not reciprocating either in love or in time.<br /><br />Rita said: "It's really no skin off my ass, if you want to eat sour grapes."<br /><br />Rita, you felt that her problem concerned a lack of validation. I was surprised by this because Nollyposh means a great deal to me, and I was confident that she knew this. Even so, so I attempted to reassure her. However, I had thought that her problem with me concerned my request that she not pray for me on my blog. Perhaps, we are both right. I don't know. Nollyposh hasn't said, and I'm unaware of how the parable of the fox and the grapes is even remotely relevant.<br /><br />To those who feel that I have mistreated Nollyposh, I would ask where is Nollyposh? I have repeatedly read what she wrote in an attempt to understand why she is so upset. I have even asked other readers to help me understand. Two of you responded to my request, and I take from those responses that you believe I have treated her less lovingly than I should have. Yet, Nollyposh herself has been strangely absent. The conversation about her has piled up until it's voluminous compared to what she herself has said, so, for my part, I am done with it. I am starting to feel like an idiot for putting so much time into Nollyposh's distress despite the fact that my impetus for doing so was that I genuinely cared. I have given her my heart, my respect, and my sincere desire to understand, and I am simply not getting anything in return. <br /><br />Perhaps, you think I have treated her so badly that she is too hurt to continue, but I can't see it. I know that I never, ever, knowingly show disrespect for anyone who responds to my blog. Do I disagree with my readers' responses at times? Certainly. Do I try to diminish their worth as human beings in my replies to those responses? Never.Snowbrushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00436087215476479042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-5988852703740103652010-07-30T20:32:25.607-07:002010-07-30T20:32:25.607-07:00Rita said: "I think Nollyposh wants some vali...<i>Rita said: "I think Nollyposh wants some validation as a good & sincere human being."<br /><br />Okay, I can certainly say that I believe Nollyposh to be a good and sincere human being about whom I care a great deal, but I had understood that it was my request that people not pray for me on my blog that had upset her, so I'm unclear how the two things are related.</i><br /><br />It is the humanist in me that wants to make peace between people.<br />It's really no skin off my ass, if you want to eat sour grapes. :)Ritahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14706331228965193251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-19396643029806388162010-07-29T21:56:53.872-07:002010-07-29T21:56:53.872-07:00It's okay Snow, not to worry. I was concerned ...It's okay Snow, not to worry. I was concerned for your friend as I felt she cared very much about you.<br />I suggest you change the title of this post as it totally doesn't fit the content......big hugs from Canada.Berniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03024565921761129108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-59813701820546838322010-07-29T10:48:38.229-07:002010-07-29T10:48:38.229-07:00I think I understand what you're saying but ev...I think I understand what you're saying but even trying to shut the diehard religious up is like talking to the wall (in fact the wall is a better listener). That said, I'm a renagade Catholic Constitutionalist who thinks that everyone is entitled to their opinion. The Constitution not only guarantees us freedom of religion; it guarantees us freedom FROM religion. I wish the zealots would understand that. I get tired of people wanting me to be converted to their way of thinking.Kay Dennisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02646717192332313215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-34045117573006664592010-07-29T10:24:11.359-07:002010-07-29T10:24:11.359-07:00The OT was written at a time when judgement was im...The OT was written at a time when judgement was immediate, punishment was swift and deadly, and less thought was placed upon understanding or forgiveness. The OT could ONLY be written using the beliefs and traditions of the ones writing it.<br /><br />Fast forward to 2010 and our answers contain no more thought or insight than those at the time of the writings.<br /><br />Johan living in the whale?: It wasn't a whale. It was a fish.....but a really, really <b> BIG</b> fish.<br /><br />Noah?: Well, it was a really, really <b>BIG</b> boat.<br /><br />Job?: But look at how he was rewarded!! (pay no attention to the slain innocents left behind)<br /><br />When people say that WITHOUT religion, or the 10 Commandments, how would people know not to kill?<br /><br />All you have to do is look at the many religious atrocities to understand that, maybe, NOT KILLING can't be attributed to the bible.<br /><br />I believe that Jesus did, in fact, exist. There are records and census tablets listing him as existing. (maybe I'm wrong and if I am, you'll advise me of it)<br /><br />He was murdered at a time when animal sacrifices were the norm as payment for sin. Therefore, it was automatic that his death would be seen as a sacrifice, covering our sinful nature.<br /><br />I just have a problem when people such as my beloved sister (with an intellectual IQ of 160) can automatically drop their brain cells in exchange for a gullibility of the teachings of the bible, and call it faith.<br /><br />The fact that I have traveled from THAT position to the one I have now, is anguish to her (even though MY travels took 20 years and immense study on my part). I did not wake up one day and decide to rebel against all that my family holds holy.<br /><br />And HER anguish causes ME anguish. <b><i>Which is proof that even atheists can feel love, anguish, remorse and sadness as well as anyone else</i></b>. <br /><br />So I learned to be silent in her presence, her house, respecting her rights to believe, without input from me.<br /><br />I definitely got off track for a moment, when all I was wanting to point out is the inarguable fact that the majority of atrocities committed by protestants, muslims and catholics (with more to come)seem to outnumber any committed by atheists.<br /><br />If MORE people became LESS religiously zealot and fanatical, our future might be more stable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-81526762724637435002010-07-29T05:10:50.369-07:002010-07-29T05:10:50.369-07:00i wasnt referring to anything specific that either...i wasnt referring to anything specific that either you or nollyposh said, it just seems to me that both of you are getting hurt in a fruitless discussion where neither can see the other's point of view.<br /><br />it would be nice if you could agree but it aint gonna happen and i dont like the way you both seem to be upset. it's not worth it<br /><br />i speak with care and affection, right?kyliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08964475783207438103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-12320111926208803232010-07-29T01:08:35.451-07:002010-07-29T01:08:35.451-07:00Bernie said: " I do not feel you have returne...Bernie said: " I do not feel you have returned/answered her comments with the same respect and love she poured in her thoughts to you."<br /><br />Bernie, I actually have put a great deal of thought into my responses to Nollyposh, but these things aren't always apparent. I think it likely that I delete a full half of what I write in my replies, and that I re-word the remainder several times, especially when I'm concerned that someone's feelings might be hurt. With the exception of the paragraph I mentioned in my response to Kylie, I have given Nollyposh my best.<br /><br />Bernie said: "why not let those who wish to pray for you pray, you don't believe in it anyway"<br /><br />I never asked anyone to not pray for me, Bernie. Rather I asked them to not tell me that they are praying for me when they visit my blog. If you feel, as Nollyposh seems to feel, that something of significance would be lost from your relationship with me if I object to you telling me--an atheist--anyplace and anytime that you are offering prayers on my behalf, I am frankly appalled. Why on earth would you want to tell an atheist that you are praying for him anyway? Even so, if not telling me--on my blog--that you are praying for me is something that you--or anyone else--is going to have a real problem with, could you not at least tell me once and then be done with telling me? Is there some reason that you have to tell me again and again? <br /><br />Bernie said: "your followers should be allowed to make their points as well..."<br /><br />Two questions come to mind. First--and in all sincerity--what have I done to discourage people from sharing their thoughts? Secondly, how might I make it easier/safer for people to share their thoughts? <br /><br />Bernie said: "you would not budge on inch adknowledging their heartfelt thoughts."<br /><br />Well, Bernie, "budge an inch" would seem to imply that I should meet them half way, but half between what two poles? I don't have the time right now to go back and re-read every response, but, so far as I'm aware, Nollyposh was the only person who was in great angst about being asked to not pray for me on my blog. I now think that, perhaps, you are too and, as I said, I am quite appalled that anyone would become distraught because an atheist objects to being prayed over in what he considers to be his home.<br /><br />Well, dear, it's way late, and I'm way tired, so I will close. I have written and re-written but with the growing concern that no matter how much I try to make my feelings clear, that you and Nollyposh, at least, are going to be offended by my request that you not tell me that you are praying for me when you visit my blog. ISnowbrushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00436087215476479042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-60610993151238154762010-07-29T01:08:19.240-07:002010-07-29T01:08:19.240-07:00Kylie said: "i dont know whats going on with ...Kylie said: "i dont know whats going on with you to but it is upsetting to watch."<br /><br />I don't know what you have reference to, Kylie. I would have left out the middle paragraph of my last reply to Nollyposh if I had it to do over, but I don't believe I have behaved badly. I know that I haven't felt badly, only a little at a loss to understand why something that, to me, seems so simple to understand and to carry out is presenting her with such a problem.<br /><br />Dana, I am in complete agreement with you. I always enjoy hearing you say things that I myself might have said, but in your own words.<br /><br />Rita said: "I think Nollyposh wants some validation as a good & sincere human being."<br /><br />Okay, I can certainly say that I believe Nollyposh to be a good and sincere human being about whom I care a great deal, but I had understood that it was my request that people not pray for me on my blog that had upset her, so I'm unclear how the two things are related.<br /><br />Strayer said: "You're damn nice for someone going to hell."<br /><br />Ha. Thanks, Strayer. Of course, as you know, most churches teach that niceness has nothing to do with going to heaven. In my own church, what really counted was whether you got a chance before you died to ask Jesus to forgive you for whatever sins you had committed since you last asked him to forgive you.Snowbrushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00436087215476479042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-4407966786566134792010-07-28T23:59:03.539-07:002010-07-28T23:59:03.539-07:00Snow, I do not know Nollyposh or her blog but I do...Snow, I do not know Nollyposh or her blog but I do not feel you have returned/answered her comments with the same respect and love she poured in her thoughts to you. Her comment would of taken a lot of time, she could or would not of done it without caring about you.<br />If you don't believe, if you think the way you feel is right for you so be it, why not let those who wish to pray for you pray, you don't believe in it anyway so why would you care or not? I read all of your comments and people really did try and have a discussion with you, expressing themselves honestly and you would not budge on inch adknowledging their heartfelt thoughts. I know this is not my business Snow but you ask if someone had an opinion on this particular comment to express it. Perhaps it is more important to you that your point is made, even understood and you deserve that much but your followers should be allowed to make their points as well........:-) HugsBerniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03024565921761129108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-79679911486887377822010-07-28T21:57:48.200-07:002010-07-28T21:57:48.200-07:00I hate it when people say "I'll pray for ...I hate it when people say "I'll pray for you." Or "Jesus loves you." They forget to add, "so I don't have to." That's what it boils down to. It is a passive aggressive phrase. Anybody says that to me and I'm likely to pepper spray em. I mean, "WTF?" They don't fix their own cats or practise basic decent behavior but they want to pray for me or me to come to their church to be saved. <br /><br />Snow, thanks for your empathetic comments lately, on the state of my being. You're damn nice for someone going to hell like you are. I'm headed to cat heaven when I pass. Got me a ticket validated to enter already. I'm pretty sure I'm in. It's way up there past that scroungy seedy human heaven full of people with issues and power hungry standing on their fist pumping preachy soapboxes--still, even in heaven they don't stop. Just kidding around, Snow.Strayerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08124298302997708537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-26139788455977229642010-07-28T19:48:30.971-07:002010-07-28T19:48:30.971-07:00snow
you jump down a person's throat when som...<b>snow</b> <br /><i>you jump down a person's throat when someone speaks from their heart about their own personal truth...Which is at it's essence what we are talking about no?</i><br />I think Nollyposh wants some validation as a good & sincere human being. A perfectly normal human desire. <br />Which, Nolly, is also what the rest of us want. <br /><br />Apparently, this is how you sound: <i>"I will be praying for you, that you might know Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior the way I know Jesus."</i><br /><br />This is what people are saying back to you: <i>"If you must pray for me, I had really rather you KEEP IT TO YOURSELF.</i><br /><br />If you can't respect peoples boundaries, you are always going to put them on the defensive, plain & simple.Ritahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14706331228965193251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-6752592682056027602010-07-28T16:53:55.624-07:002010-07-28T16:53:55.624-07:00Well snowbrush, I know you're trying to state ...Well snowbrush, I know you're trying to state your case by answering what others have said against your beliefs, and I find myself doing that a LOT also. <br /><br />But it's like sitting in a rocking chair. You put forth a lot of effort, but you never get anywhere, ESPECIALLY when people are leading with their "feelings".<br /><br />When "feelings" are involved there is no "need" for an intellectual base. And you said it so succinctly when you wrote "the intellectual basis for your faith, (is) not something you’re likely to learn in church".<br /><br />Picture this happening in every church, every Sunday: Remove the emotionally inspiring gospel music, the choir singing, the piano pounding, and the momentum moving the congregation to "JOIN IN". Replace it with verbal readings from the bible and where would the "feelings" (ie: emotions) come from?<br /><br />The collection plate would be empty and the seats would be vacant without emotionalism.<br /><br />And using the word "intellectual" anywhere near the word "faith" is like smoking near a ruptured gas line. <br /><br />So much of what we call religion in our adulthood is nothing more than preserving the teachings of our ancestors. <br /><br />If the "hole" that is reported to supposedly be in all of us, (that can only be filled by god) truly existed, we would all be born with an innate knowledge of our creator and in no need of force feedings (brain washings) passed from one generation to another.<br /><br />Looking to a minister, or the bible, for intellectual FACTS is like trying to find the theory of relativity in a book of Mother Goose tales.<br /><br />NONE of us know the FACTS of the true beginning of life, but a different "bible" exists for every culture and religion. THREE of these differing bibles each have their own "savior" being born of a virgin who was impregnated by god, crucified and raised from the dead.<br /><br />Sex, violence and science fiction all wrapped up to grab your attention.<br /><br />Be it the bible or Mother Goose, <b><i>OUR</i></b> bible or the bibles of <b><i>other</i></b> religions, the FACT is overlooked that they are all STORIES with an implied "moral" that appeals to the child in us.<br /><br />I wish we could just relax and let the various religions of the world fight it out to the death, since they seem to be itching to go at it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-60383497718401242392010-07-28T15:14:07.663-07:002010-07-28T15:14:07.663-07:00i dont know whats going on with you to but it is u...i dont know whats going on with you to but it is upsetting to watchkyliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08964475783207438103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23830899.post-48373436862198607732010-07-28T11:46:57.945-07:002010-07-28T11:46:57.945-07:00Nollyposh, I have a few more words to say to you.
...Nollyposh, I have a few more words to say to you.<br /><br />"you back me into a corner! AND i might add often only high-light those parts of a persons conversation that suits your view of things..."<br /><br />I am truly at a loss as to why you are so angry. What you perceive as me backing you into a corner, I perceive as my sincere desire to understand what the problem is. As to your other charge, I reply to those parts of a person's response that either interest me most or stand at the heart of what I perceive her to be saying. I know of no other blogger who goes to more pains to communicate at length with readers than I. In fact, I hope that one of the attractions of my blog is that I take my readers seriously and that I treat them respectfully. <br /><br />And, since I am feeling defensive, I will say that I have often put a great deal of care into writing to you on your blog, and then eagerly awaited a reply that NEVER came. Likewise, I have replied to you about things you have written on my blog without ever knowing if you read my reply or not. <br /><br />Again, I literally don't know why you are so upset despite having repeatedly read what you have written. Perhaps, another reader might help me here.Snowbrushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00436087215476479042noreply@blogger.com